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about me , and more we surround them ning – March 10, 2009, 09:31 PM

a complete explanation about what up.

I’m pretty positing this “lawfamily” person (jared law ) Is “american patriot”.

i saw that warning that Admin sent last night as more as a “momma bear” protecting her cubs type response. i anm not sending this as mass mailer though, since mail has both limited length, and i don’t like spamming the community.

and it appears that the other ning is now refusing new members , and the few PM’s i have recived say ther is much pettiness and finger pointing going on .

I beg anyone reading this here do not do that . i don’t wantto start some dumb skirmmish it’s petty and completly out of charter for what we are trying to do.

if they want to whine fine let them .

the following is , accusations against us and the events that happened alone with the full emails ,their dates and any follow up responses .


but this was the response :

on the GBI forum on march 10th 2009

lawfamily wrote:
The dishonest email sent out in a lame attempt to discredit “American Patriot” is indeed disappointing. Let’s clear the air here, and put an end to pointless, divisive bickering.

The fact is that wesurroundthem.ning.com is a separate effort from wesurroundthemusa.ning.com. The latter, founded by “American Patriot,” is NOT a front for some sort of Barack Hussein Obama organization, and any suggestion claiming it is, unfortunately, is not only false, but since it is being perpetuated by one or more of the wesurroundthem.ning.com admins, is very disheartening.

The fact is that wesurroundthemusa.ning.com has well over a thousand members, due largely to committed recruitment by members, as well as hundreds of hours of hard work in the last two weeks. It is a completely volunteer effort. And while wesurroundthem.ning.com has over two hundred members, it isn’t growing nearly as fast, but that is no excuse to resort to libelous emails.

Why would the wesurroundthem.ning.com admins attempt to discredit the faster-growing network? I can think of some motives, but it’s just frustrating and sad. Why would they do that? Unite or die, my friends. Don’t act like crabs in a bucket! Just because someone has worked harder and sacrificed more, and is reaping what they sowed, as well as what their membership sowed, they’re willing to start rumors? Really? Do they really want to go down that road?

Please don’t do this, wesurroundthem.ning.com. You’ll only discredit yourselves.

Think before you act, please! Personally attacking the founder of what you apparently feel is a competing network is NOT helpful! It will NOT help you grow your network. It will just hurt you. Please stop. Please.
I wrote:

I was NOT going to bring this here since i wanted to keep it internal.
and their was a perceived threat.

The issue we had was that this “American patriot” person was coming to our ning and messaging every new member that they needed to join the other one.


both times, me and the admin extended our hands to offer crossposting we were ignored or turned down, or told to tell our members to go to the other one .



the email went out because the main admin was scared

(phishing scams who know what else , it was a mama bear type response to protect our members ).

she looked up the info on the site” americanpatriot” was pushing

( WE did ,until last night ,advertise his site on ours and advertise the other ning.)

the ICAN data came back as registered to the white house .

she panicked .. i talked her down off the ledge , explained it was simply a falsified registry not government .

but whoever that is was not their to participate just recruit . which i feel was dishonest .

as well as hiding who they were and their motives..

we felt the manner in which that person was acting was not ligit and banned them , it was not the first time their was an issue with members getting confused by his emails and messages and creating groups on the other ning then screaming at us for “deleting” a group they never created on ours .

back on march 3rd when Lawfamily first posted on the GBI forum, i offered to look into merging the hroups thru ning or to cross post the links just so people knew ther were two.. for the record ours was the first one . and american patriot joined ours first back in feb 10th but never offered any assistance in getting it going.

a LOT of the ning building was done by me because i offered to help out Michelle .

so after that contact what lawfamily tried to turn into a pissing contest in the DST on the glenn beck insider forum. i extened the offfer to merge or cross link….

I personally had contacted ning to ask if we could merge the group

lawfamily has yet to answer my PM about it.

we removed that link last night after this mess , and I do not plan on cross posting it again seeing as how we are treated . We will be vetting any future sites . since there was just something that didn’t seem quite right .
as far as members i really could not care less who has more members,

this was a attempt to protect our members from scavengers as the main admin perceived it.

i told her she panicked and to wait for me to verify next time . but her heart was in the right place.

the person americanpatriot who was only there to confuse and recuit was not.

I made the initial offer to consolidate if possible on the 3rd of march and never got an answer.

I HAD immediately contacted ning to ask is it was even possible.

Related FAQ:
Answer Title: How can I add a tab to my network?
Answer Link: http://help.ning.com/cgi-bin/ning.cfg/p … 1221582521

Quote:

[Reporter (mary margaret conley) - 03/03/2009 10:00 AM]
we have 2 nings of the same type .

and the same goal but we hadn’t found each other . we were wondering if
there is a way to combine the nings to consolidate the member bases

http://wesurroundthem.ning.com/
http://wesurroundthemusa.ning.com/
.

if not no biggie i’ll just set up a cross link one , or we’ll discuss
taking east and west coast since this is a nation grass routes campaign that
is just starting to get organized .

but it would be much easier then telling one or the other to move all their
members over to start fresh .

thank you in advance for any advice or assistance

Mary Conley

response from ning
Quote:

The Ning Team to me
show details Mar 3 (6 days ago)
[The Ning Team - 03/03/2009 11:53 AM]
Hi Mary!

Thanks for writing in. Awesome social networks and I really like your use of customized appearance on the main page! There isn’t a built-in functionality to merge two social networks and share members but you can definitely create a Tab via the Tab Manager to point to each other which will make it visible to all your members.

Please let me know if you have additional questions.
Cheers,
Emily

so after giving it a week i disregarded them but DID cross link to their ning in the forum. i even sent out a message with link to the other ning informing our members letting them know their were two nings .

Quote:

From American Patriot to You
Sent Mar 7
Reply Reply All Forward Archive Message Delete Message Block Messages Unblock Messages Michelle!

Would you be willing to entertain folding your network into the wesurroundthemusa.ning.com network? It would seem that there’s no sense in maintaining separate networks, when we’re trying to do the same thing, and we’re nearing 900 approved members!

I don’t know what you have been doing to stimulate growth in the network, but on my end, I have been literally working 20 hour days for more than ten days now, and my body is really complaining about that, but all of that hard work is being rewarded in the form of network growth and participation.

Good thing, too, since I have totally dedicated myself to this movement since we started, giving up a thousands dollars of income (my wife and I have a web business that pays our bills, and we decided that what I’m doing is important enough that she is running our business herself for the time being, and it has cost us quite a bit)!

Anyway, I thought we could work together rather than in competition with each other, since that would serve no purpose!

Please let me know at your earliest convenience!

Thanks,

American Patriot

her response .. i had no knowledge of this
just that i had been ignored even though i made an attempt and no one ever responded to me .

Quote:

From Michelle Cale (… to Mary Conley (Te…
Sent 11 hours ago

Hi there, from what I understand there are many networks out there even ones we have yet to find, they all do a little of this and that. I would be happy to place a link on the front of the site here to your site on top under the radio link I have for people if you would place my link in the same area on your site
I am unsure what else you are seeking since sir I have invested more than this site to the cause I have several urls plus a .mobi site that I purchased out of pocket to help fight back the Obamabull.
Um, as for getting people signed up here I have several kind friends in high places I suppose you could say as well as those helping to promote this cause and leading them to the site.

I by all means am not trying to compete with anyone for any reason at the same time I am not going to delete my site if thats what you are asking- nor am I willing to direct my 3 urls I have purchased out of pocket to your site? Honestly, why would I? I as well have devoted many hours to this with other great people to get this site going.

Like I said if you would like to place a link to your site on top I will be more than happy to do the same and I am very busy now making a site that is compatible with cell phones.

I have no donation buttons on any of my sites either since I am into this for one reason alone and that is to take back the Country that my husband isin Iraq fighting to protect.
Thanks & have a nice day.

and we did what we said we would .

but the confusion it caused our members , and “the harvesting “, was enough.
i have no issue with what ever that ning is doing but this person was very back handed in his method exspcally when olive branches were extended .

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