why i hate PeTA and the history of the no kill movement .
originally their no-Kill movement was not about
making sanctuaries perse, which often leads to situation of hoarding and gross animal abuse. but it was about educating the Pet Owner ot prevent that animals from being dropped off at the shelter in the first place.
personally I think no kill is a bad description it should be Lo-Kill because even at the best times there are situations when the most humane thing you can do is euthanize an animal.
the goal therefore is that all Adoptable animals can find safe loving homes .
that beign said
reason #1 why I HATE PeTA
PeTA KIlls Animals
PETA’s “Animal Record” report for 2008, filed with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, shows that the animal rights group killed 95 percent of the dogs and cats in its care last year. During all of 2008, PETA found adoptive homes for just seven pets.
Just seven animals — out of the 2,216 it took in. PETA just broke its own record.
According to government documents, PETA employees have killed more than 19,200 dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens since 1998. This behavior continues despite PETA’s moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by farmers, scientists, restaurant owners, circuses, hunters, fishermen, zookeepers, and countless other Americans. PETA puts to death over 90 percent of the animals it accepts from members of the public who expect the group to make a reasonable attempt to find them adoptive homes. PETA holds absolutely no open-adoption shelter hours at its Norfolk, VA headquarters, choosing instead to spend part of its $32 million annual income on a contract with a crematory service to periodically empty hundreds of animal bodies from its large walk-in freezer.
next Breeding ..
I have been doing animal rescue for 11 years .I was around before it became standard to use pentobarbital as the lethel nearly painless inject .
I started volunteering when I was 18 and the local shelter only had a Gas box.. it was so sad ….I was there and witnessed animals struggle to get out knowing they were dieing
so yes I have seen death and know what can await the 50% of animals admitted to shelters accross the country and in places like rural GA where they still use Gas chambers.
I”m not against Breeding , not responsible Breeding anyway, but I have a very strigent code as to what I Deem responsible Breeding
Which if you read the charters of most breed clubs it not that far off.
Many of you know my Breed of Choice is the miniture schnauzer. I have 3 all from rescue Groups .
all my PETS are spayed or nutered .It is my belief that the first choice for a family Pet should come from the shelters or a breed rescue.
becuse most people just want a dog for companionship, and to bark if there is intruder , a watch dog
My 3 do and excellent job of that , If you want a Dog to do dog sports there is still no reason not to check out your local shelter or a rescue first.
Their are several members in our rescue group that show ther rescue dogs in agility and ground dog trials .
the AKC even allows you ILP your Rescue or pound dog , 40-60% of animals in shelters are pure-bred.
to compete in AKC sponsored events ,got a MUTT no problem their are other breed groups and events that either allow mutts to compete , or have open events for a just for fun class.
Any dog can get there Obedience titles and their are plenty of dog sports you do not need pedigree for.
now if you have a mentor and want to get further involved with the breed .
their is further reading that you need to do
and the understanding that
raising dogs is NOT cheap
good verses bad breeder
quick check list ..
Bad :
Backyard Breeder( any combination, it may be clean and sanitary but the things they have in common are those bolded)
1. Motive for breeding: “fun”, “good for kids”, “to make money”. Does not screen buyers and seldom refuses to sell, even if buyer is unsuitable.
2. Breeds the family pet to any convenient pet of the same breed just to have purebred pups. Has no understanding or concern with genetics, pedigree bloodlines, or breed improvement.
3. Though the pets (sire/dam of pups) may be well loved, they were not tested for hip dysplasia or for other genetic problems such as cardiomyopathy and hypothyroidism.
4. Offers no health guarantee beyond proof of shots, if that. Unqualified to give help if problems develop.
5. Seller has little knowledge of breed history, the national breed club or of the AKC breed standard. May claim this does not matter for “just pets”.
6. Pups raised in makeshift accommodations, sometimes unsanitary, indicating lack of long-term investment in breeding and lack of true care for the puppies well-being.
7. Even when selling “just pets”, may produce AKC papers or “championship pedigrees” as proof of quality. Yet seller does not increase his own knowledge through participation in national, regional, or local breed clubs. Is not involved in showing their dogs to “prove” quality.
8. May be unwilling to show a buyer the entire litter or to introduce the dam of the litter.Cannot or will not compare/critique pups or pup’s ancestors.
9. Prices are at the low end of local range, since must move pups quickly. Advertises in the local newspaper classifieds.
10. No concern for the future of individual pups or the breed as a whole. Does not use AKC’s limited registration option or ask for spay/neuter contract to guard against the breeding of sub-standard pups. If you cannot keep pup, tells you to take it to a dog pound or to sell it.
Good:
Reputable Breeder
1. ONLY bred a litter to improve there established lines. Dedication to producing quality dogs is serious avocation. Has so much invested in dogs that he struggles to break even, not make a profit. Will sell pups only to approved buyers.
2. Can explain how planned breedings are used to emphasize or minimize specific qualities through linebreeding, outcrossing, or more rarely, inbreeding.
3. Does not breed dogs younger than age 2. Has breeding stock x-rayed to checked for breed related problems . ie: for hip dysplasia, eyes checked , and thyroid screened. Can produce certification to prove claims.
4. Written contractual commitment to replace a dog with genetic faults or to help owner deal with problem.
5. Loves the breed and can talk at length about its background, uses, and ideal type.
6. Has an investment in dog equipment and the puppies environment is sanitary and loving.
7. Belongs to national, regional, and/or local dog clubs, indicating a love for the sport of purebred dogs. Shows their dogs as an objective test of how his stock measures up.
8. Shows litter and dam in a sanitary environment. Helps buyer evaluate and choose a pup. Explains criteria for “show prospects” versus “pet picks”.
9. Prices will be at the high end of local range. Price will not reflect all that is invested in the pups. A reputable breeder never profits from the sale of puppies. Does not advertise in the newspaper. Has an established waiting list for the pups.
10. After purchase, will help you with grooming or training problems. Will take back a pup you cannot keep rather than see it disposed of inappropriately. Sells pets with spay/neuter agreement and on AKC limited registration.
another site that has excellent articles on breeder s and ethical practices is
http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/articles.html
list of more articles:
http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding.html
sample :
So you want to be a breederNot for the squeamish – but then neither is breeding
Things to think about BEFORE breeding your dog
Should I breed my dog?
Miracle of Birth video
I want to stand my dog at stud
and many more …..including
Breeding Information
Thoughts on dog breeding
Its just one litter
I want my dog to be a mother
Think before you do
Before you breed
The cost of having a litter
Pet Overpopulation
Should you breed your dog or bitch?
So you want to breed dogs do you?
Breeding Your Dog
Seven Foundations for a Successful Dog Breeder
Should you breed your Lab female?
I am a proponent of rescue and responsible pet practices( spay and neuter ) I enjoy seeing excellent examples of our breed and would hate to see it destroyed by the
glutted and often uneducated “consumer ” market. the easiest way to ensure this dosn’t happen is by educating the general public about . good vs bad practices and why things
need to be done within an ethical set of guidelines .
lets talk a little about investment ..
people seem to automatically jump to investment having to do with getting MONEY back but don’t realize that work doesn’t always have to do with money .
sometimes investment is seeing your hard work to make something you love better. or to strengthen it.
Good Breeding has more to do with , improving a breed and keeping it true to it’s intent .
there are some interesting articals by Catherine McMillan . of Minuteman Miniture Schnauzers , I have a lot of respect for Ms. McMillan and I enjoy her articals because they allow us to look at our breed history and see both where we come from and where we go. and even though I have no intent on ever breeding and am more then happy to save the ones that were breed by unscrupulous ding bats and remove them from the gene pool. I seriously can appreciate a carefully planned breeding program and reading the words of someone who puts so much effort into doing it right.. even if it don’t always agree 100% with every thing at least Ms. McMillan has a defined set of values and practices and a clear vision of what she is striving for .
Minuteman Minis have earned nearly 100 Championship titles on 4 continents since 1983. They include Best In Show, group and Best in Specialty Show winners on both sides of the equator and top producer sires in Canada, the US and Australia. (Typically, there are about 8 puppies born here in a year.)
Breeding show dogs – or good ones, that is -can be an extraordinary challenge. The successful breeder must be geneticist, emergency technician, midwife, personal trainer, nutritionist, artist, ethicist and canine psychologist.
It doesn’t hurt to be a little obsessive compulsive, as well.
What is most interesting is her stance on out breeding genetic defects instead of totally inihalating the line and the more I think about it honestly the more I agree with her.
yes those dogs that are know carriers should be used sparingly and under careful watch .
but if it’s a 50 /50 chance then even produce a carrier and their is also a chance that 100% of a careful planned litter may be free of whatever defect.
and then in a generation or 2 the gene can be bred out without loosing all the good genes and further strengthening the breed .
in Kate’s words
“Breed towards the good, not away from the bad.
It is better to breed from a dog with obvious virtues and obvious faults, than it is to breed from one of overall mediocrity. What does that mean? When faced with a choice between a beautiful bitch with a bad bite and an ordinary bitch with a good one, I’ll take the one with the bad bite in a heartbeat. Breeding out a bite problem is simple. Breeding in quality is hard.”
honestly it’s something to think about….but also keep in mind this is not a miller looking to make a buck this is someone who has spent years of her life indexing and pouring over pedigrees and photos and histories of Schnauzers all over the world . who isn’t just out to make a buck but to really improve her breed and keep it healthy and strong , and also a person who can see the faults even in her own dogs.
sometimes a cure by omition is more destructive then simple careful planning.
I would suggest if your interested in the breed to read all her articles their is a lot of interesting stuff here, and take what is valuable and apply it to your own dogs.
she includes grooming pages .
http://www.katewerk.com/minuteman.html
#2 Peta BTW doesn’t think anyone should have pets.
PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means the complete abolition of meat, milk, cheese, eggs, honey, zoos, aquariums, circuses, wool, leather, fur, silk, hunting, fishing, and pet ownership. In a 2003 profile of Newkirk in The New Yorker, author Michael Specter wrote that Newkirk has had at least one seeing-eye dog taken away from its blind owner. PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals, including research aimed at curing AIDS and cancer.
and yes their is more where that came from..
you ask then what about the other stuff?
well
I believe everything has it’s place,if you are going to butcher something first off raise it humanely , personally I’d rather have my own sustainable farm and use every bit of any animal I raised .
If that means saving the hides for clothing so be it .
if I’m not, I’d rather use by products of an industry then see them go to waste…. in this I refer to meat animals skins….
do I see a point to fur trade ..?
not so much , you can’t eat the animals so their not being used fully and that creates waste.
and the conditions their kept in are not humane .
I was very much for supporting prop 2 and think food animals should at least be treated as comfortably as possible, kept as healthy as possible , and receive the fastest most pain free death possible before processing .
although ideally I would like to see the return to smaller, free range community farms( or safe enclosed free range chicken farms ) feeding their locals then corporate farming.
I certainly don’t lie seeing food being shipped in from China and prefer my local organic markets .
I’d rather see more hunting of overpopulated animals and good steward ship(sportsman naturally do this) and less involvement by self proclaimed “environmentalists” because they have caused far more harm then good. CA wild Fires, starving CA , Lieing to force legislation , and so on.
and finally the liberal who is going to ask..
don’t you think your being a hypocrite yourself because you try to save dogs and cats but still eat meat?
first off PeTA markets itself as something their not
and inside their own organisation they outwardly campaign with signs in front of animals shelters berating them for having to euth ;
while at the same time PeTA kills over 95% of the animals they intake .
Campaigning and supporting Fire bombers, and terrorists to attack drug companies and research labs .
While there upper management use ANIMAL derived insulin shots.
THAT is hypocrisy ..
I on the other hand I am a realist..i respect the animals .
but i understand the balance that is nature and there is a balance between life and death .
i do not try to hide that fact or market myself as something i am not.
I try in reduce the waste that is caused by over breeding and animal death.
Dogs are both a companion and a tool, a highly intelligent living tool , but they have a purpose. It is not good steward ship or moral to produce more then you are going to use because that creates waste and waste is not good
. so believe we should be able to use what is on this plant but respect it by not using more of it then we plan to make useful.
that breeding dogs for the sake of a quick buck is immoral and creates more animal then we have homes for.
throwing out meat and hides is waste because that excess is not being respectfully utilised it disgraces the animal
be conservative in every aspect of your life and do so with purpose as to create as little waste as possible,
in other words moderation for the planet….
